Readers/hunters,Just curious what ya'll use weapon(s) wise. I know alot are dedicated to their rifles, while others prefer the gauge, and still others swear by both. Post what you've used and what you prefer to be successfull in the field.
I will always take my 223 and my shotgun. Just this last weekend Coyote Steve and I were hunting and set-up in the mesquite hills and only brought shotguns. Well two minutes into the calling a bobcat showed up and hung up the whole stand at 100 yards. If Steve would have had his rifle we could have added another fur to the freeze.
No doubt about it...... Take a rifle and a shotgun to every stand. The one time that you don't take it is when you wish you would have. Could have easily sniped that bobcat, but it was the only stand that I didn't take my rifle... AAAGGGGHHHHH!!!!
When determining a position to set up for predator hunting, make sure that when you dismount your vehicle that you do not slam vehicle doors. Also move as quietly to your position as possible. Most manmade noise is recognized by predators and your hunt will be over before it starts. When moving to your position, you want to avoid silhouetting yourself on any high ridge so that your position is not compromised. When finding a final position to set up, try to set up in the shade. This will help with your camouflage and mask any of your small movements.
You always want the wind in your face and the sun on your back. The wind is the key factor and will make or break your success. Predators have an extremely good sense of smell and will wind you from miles away. The sun on your back is not as important as wind but will help make you more successful. In the sun all your movements are exaggerated, not only because the sunlight reflects but also you have shadow movement. If you play the wind and sun right it will result in knocking off more fur!
When you choose a location for your set-up place yourself where you can see the most avenues of approach. Anticipate the coyote’s path but always be ready for the unexpected. If at all possible have the call away from your position so the coyotes are fixated on the call and not on you. If you cannot move the call away from you have your partner sit down wind. Majority of the time your partner will get the shot before the coyote winds you resulting in more fur in the truck.
Scent control is key when hunting the hunters. Layer your clothing so as the day gets warmer you can avoid sweating by pealing layers off. Also after washing your favorite camo run them through the washer and dryer again with no soap or dyer sheet, “Spring Sensation” is not a cover scent. If possible shower before you hunt with either unscented soap or just plain water. Wear an unscented deodorant or none at all. Absolutely no colognes, perfumes or any type of smell goods. If it’s not some kind of pee you spray on your boots leave it at home. All these small details add up to make your hunt more successful and knocking off some fur!
One of the first things you'll want to do when hunting predators in your area is trying to find out what their #1 food source is. Although predators will come to just about any sound of an animal in distress, you'll be more successful with finding a sound that they can relate to. Once you find that distinct sound, use it to your advantage by scouting different areas where you've seen this animal before. For instance, VPH has been unbelievably successful with the "Jack Rabbit in Distress" sound. There are jack rabbits everywhere in the desert so we pull in predators in just about every area that we know to hunt.
how far out do yall usually set up your foxpro??
Hello Chad..... We will usually put the FOXPRO out at shotgun range. Depending on how your ammo patterns and what choke you are using is how I determine where I put the call. Also I try to anticipate where the coyote is going to come from, and I'll set it off at an angle. That way if the predator is coming in, it won't see where my position is. Another good aspect is to make sure that you can see the call when it is set up. Many, many times, we've had a predator come right into the call and bite at it. If you can not see the call, you might miss out on the next shot. Hope this helps buddy.
Thanks top good info just got a foxpro. I'm used to using mouth calls one thing I have found good for stopping a running coyote(besides a bullet) is I put a mouse squeaker on my bi-pod or tape to my rifle forearm when the run by I hit it they stop they die. Just some random info I figured I'd throw out there lol. Anyways keep em coming great stuff guys.
I like to use the classic "Whoop". Its a a high pitch whoop that mimics a coyote calling to locate its mate. Works like a charm! Red River Calls makes some real good squeekers that can be attached like you are describing.
When selecting a position for your set-up, make sure you can see the incoming animal and avenues of approach, and that you can actually shoot from the position that you have chosen! Make yourself as comfortable as possible when first setting up, for a time limit of about 20 minutes. Don't conceal yourself so much that you can't see the predator coming in. If the area that you are hunting is thick vegetation, have your shotgun in your lap and ready to pick up and shoot immediately. I always have my rifle right next to me on the bipod so that I can mount it in a matter of about 2 seconds for the longer shots. Being ready to shoot immediately is key when predator hunting. Some predators will come in hot and heavy and you'll only have a second or two to react. Not being ready for that shot is probably the biggest mistake that predator hunters make. By the time the predator figures out that something isn't right, it's alot harder to shoot at a running coyote, fox, or cat than one that is still coming into the call.
i have 84 acres and a cat problem, there's a mountain lion that passes through my place it's seen everyother day but when I'm out with a gun she's a no-show any pointers on catching that thing before my horses die??
Big Merc..... Sounds like you have a huge problem man. You can start by trying to find the tracks of your cat and see where he/she frequents alot. Use these areas to do your setups when you call. During the mating season you can use the cougar in heat or cat calls from your FOXPRO to bring the cat in.... Cats like Mountain Lions also like big game in distress..... If you have cattle or other big game in your area, use the sounds of calves, fawns, or piglets in distress to bring your big predator in. Good luck with hunting this cat. Also, don't go alone... A mature cat can sneek up on your position without you even knowing that it's there. It's more dangerous to hunt a cougar/mountain lion alone than it is to have a friend with you. It would be smart to try and hook up with someone that has some good dogs to track down your cat and get rid of the problem. Once you have one cat in your area, you're prone to have others as well. Good luck with this issue. If you'd like VPH to come up and take care of the cat, please let me know...
When using an electronic or digital call in the field, use low volume at first. You never know when a predator is close by and a quick loud burst from your caller could spook that predator. I always start out with a low volume and then after a few minutes I'll increase it a little more. This will definitely increase your chances of pulling that predator in close for the shot and knocking off some more fur. Good Luck!!
When a coyote is coming in, watch his body language, he will telegraph exactly what he is going to do! If you see his hair stand up on the back of his neck your busted, take the shot. If he is coming in slow with his nose in the air he’s trying to catch a scent, let him come but be ready to take the shot. If he is staring at the call at a dead tilt, let him get close for an easy shot. He is hungry and doesn’t even know you are there. Watch and learn their body postures and it will result in more fur in the truck!
I hardly ever hunt in the wind. If the wind is more than 10 mph, I have found it to be less successful to hunt predators, especially coyotes. When the wind is really blowing, predators will seek cover and not respond well to your calls and will wait to hunt for a later time. Also, you're taking the risk of your scent blowing all over the area that you are trying to hunt. Predators are smart and will use the wind in their favor. They will circle down wind and catch your scent before you even know they are present. Another aspect about the wind is that everything is blowing around, (grass, trees, bushes, dust) and that makes for a difficult time to try and catch the movement of a predator when they come in. Before I plan a hunt, I'll always check the weather in the surrounding areas and try to play the wind in my favor.
When hunting at night and using a spotlight, try using a red lens light instead of the powerful bright white light. Red lens lights will illuminate the predators eyes just as good as a white light and will not spook the predator like a white light will. Most of the time, a predator will catch on to a white light and know that something is wrong. A red light will help you to see the predators and will not scare them away. If you're using night vision, pick a night that you know you're going to have some good moonlight. That way you can leave the spotlight at home. Before hunting at night, check your local state laws to make sure that it's okay to hunt at night or use a spotlight. Happy Hunting!!!!
When hunting coyotes or predators, I like to get up early and check the weather report. Maybe even check the weather the night before. I will hunt seriously until around 11:30 or 12:00 noon. After that, your chances of calling in a coyote will be limited. As for the evening hunts, depending on daylight savings, I'll always start hunting about 2-2 1/2 hours before sunset until I can no longer see. I have found that most of my success will come somewhere around 0700-1000 and again about an hour before sunset. Of course, you can call predators in all hours of the day, but you will be more successful if you give it a break around noon and then pick it up again that evening before dark.
To help improve your success we suggest using a cover scent. We use Predator Bomb by Buck bomb. Spray it on your boots about every 5 set ups to help cover your tracks to your stand. Also spray a little in the bushes in your set-up location to help cover your downwind scent. You can also spray some coyote urine and fawn urine around the decoy to get those predators even closer! By using every trick in your predator hunting pack and paying attention to detail you will end up with more fur in the truck!
hey guys need some input, when hunting an open field with a thick tree line is it better to set in the open field and call them out or set in the tree line? also planning another trip this fall so save some dogs for me.
How open is the field? Is there any cover in that field at all? If so, you can use the cover to your advantage. Try to find a camo that'll blend in the best while you're out there and maybe try to keep as low as a silhouette as possible. Is being in the prone position going to help or hurt you hunting this field? If the entire field is open with no cover, I suggest that you stay to one side or the other just inside the tree line. Try to anticipate the direction they'll come from and don't forget the wind as well. Hope this helps bud.
When predator hunting and using camo, try to find a good camo brand that fits into the area that you are hunting. In VPH hunting, most of our hunts are in the desert, so we like to use Realtree's Max 1 or Mossy Oak's Brush. Another good camo for the desert is Cabela's Open Country Seclusion 3-D. Try to camo all body parts. It's important to use a facemask and gloves as well. Your skin will really reflect off of the sun and you'll give up your position if a predator spots you from far off. Blending in is important when predator hunting. Don't stick out like a sore thumb. Predator's have excellent eye sight and will see you long before you see them.
Hello to all predator hunters.
When hunting in the mornings (especially in the desert), you want to make your stands in the open fields. Predators are opportunity feeders, but they will take an easy pick in an open field where jackrabbits and cotton tails are an easy target. You'll have huge success in the fields during the mornings and you'll also have the advantage of seeing your target coming in from a long distance. Always try to find some kind of cover, cactus, yucca plant, or other bush to break up your outline. You'll be surprised how much more success you'll have by hunting these open areas where predators are searching for food in the a.m. Good Luck!!!
When creating a plan for our upcoming predator hunt, I like to have a minimum of 3 shooters. We definitely pay attention to the wind, but the reason for the 3 shooters is because everyone can have an assignment. You can put one guy high, one guy low, and one guy in the middle, especially if you're hunting small ridges and hills. You are anticipating where the coyote is coming from, but you want to position each hunter where they have an assignment. VPH hunts in a wedge, with the caller in the rear. I'll assign two other hunters at a 45 degree angle to my left and right and they both will cover most of the area. That way, if the predator gets by them, then I can still get the shot. Most of the time, either guy (left or right) will get the kill. Next time you're out, try this little tip. It'll lead to someone seeing or shooting an extra predator. Happy Hunting.....
Predator Hunting Team,
When you are hunting the summer months for predators, pay attention to the heat. In the desert, you can get away with hunting part of the morning, but when it starts getting around 90 degrees or hotter, you can pretty much wrap up your hunt. Also pay attention to the moon setting. If it was a full moon the night before your hunt, you'll be less likely to be successful. Predators will hunt at the most opportune times and if that means hunting when it's cooler, they'll take full advantage of that. Weather has alot to do with the success of predator hunting, especially in the desert. Pay attention to this tip and it'll lead you to knocking off some more fur......
Pay attention to the cleaning supplies that you use when going to clean your rifles or shotguns. Some cleaning supplies will leave a scent that is highly detectable to a sensitive nose like a predator. It makes no sense to be scent free with your clothes, soap, and spray, only to have a gun that gives up your position when hunting. Remember that the wind is ALWAYS moving in some direction. It only takes one foreign smell to scare away a predator. You'll be busted before you ever get your eyes on your target. Not all cleaning agents are scent free, but keep it in the back of your mind the next time your cleaning your weapons.
If you are hunting predators all day and come to the time of day that it is really hot, look for the creek beds, real shady areas, or areas where you know a predator could be hiding or sleeping. Real thick areas offer a good spot to call in the middle of the day. Predators will mostly hunt in the mornings and evenings, but if you make the proper adjustments to call these areas, a predator will come out of hiding or a mid day nap to feed. They are opportunity feeders and will not pass up a free meal. Hope this tip helps you out on your next hunt
If you love predator hunting the desert like we do, then I recommend using the FOXPRO. A combination of the "Jackrabbit in Distress" sound and placing your call out at about shotgun range will definitely help bring in those weary predators. If you play the sound completely through on the first sequence and then bust it up into 10, 20, and 30 second interations, with pauses in between, you'll be extremely successful in calling in those predators. Once complete, move at least a mile down the road and give it another shot. Hope this helps...
The best predator hunting will come around October to February, but you can call all year around. One thing that you want to make sure of is: if you are calling an area (whether the predators are responding or not), don't over call that area. We like to call an area, and then leave it alone for a month or more. We are lucky here in West Texas, because we have alot of areas to choose from. Make sure that when you are calling that you don't call too much. Even if you have limited areas, give it a break for a while and then come back to it. You'll find yourself more successful in the end. Happy Hunting!!
When calling in an open field in front of you its always a good idea to try and use a visual attractor also like a "MOJO" rabbit. Not only will the Yotes hear the rabbit call but they will see the rabbit imitator and really think its a easy meal and come busting in fast.
Fellow Predator Hunters,
Make sure you pay attention to the details. Have the appropriate camo for the area you are hunting. Song dogs have 10 times better vision then you or me; they will notice Mossy Oak Break-up in the desert or Open Country in the woods. Also limit your movement on stand by setting your rifle up to where you just need to bring it to your shoulder to shoot and your shot gun in your lap or alongside you where you can pick it up fast and squeeze one off. Try to use the terrain and wait for the opportunity to raise up when the critter cannot see you. Be patient and study their body language. After awhile you will know when they are not going to come in any closer or if they are trying to get downwind. These small details will put more fur in the truck.
When hunting fox, especially at night..... use your favorite call to get them into spotlight range, then shut off your call and lip squeak them in. If you have never lip squeaked before, it's like puckering up and kissing your girlfriend. Just make the smooching sound, but use a high pitch. Fox have amazing hearing and believe it or not, he'll come right into your sound. Coyotes at night are a little more weary, but with the right technique and a little practice, you'll be more successful on your stands. Hope this helps.....
During the mating season (Late February, Early March), you might want to give the coyotes a rest. They do not respond very well to animals in distress. You'd be better off letting them rest for a while and then picking it up again when the breeding season is over. Coyotes will always come to the call, but you'll be alot more successful if you give it a little time during the breeding season and then come back to it later... Hope this helps...
Trap them. Use V.C. style dead falls and land mines.... JK!, Trapping them during this time of year is as tough as calling them in, also concider the condition of there fur after the breeding season is complete. As we all know they fight alot, and may sometimes cause serious injury to one another. Common to see bald patches and wounds, sometimes infected and festerring.
Just begining to see the early signs of the yote reacting to food responses. Steve and Hatch had several respond well, costing Steve 5 big ones in the Kitty Pot. LOL. at least there starting to move. The same evening Hatch and I had 2 respond. One of them, a small immature male coming all the way, only to be stopped in his tracks about 25ft. from the barrel of Hatches shotgun. The other response while less successfull was one that hung up at about 400yds in the thicket just north of us, and let out a couple of barks and howls. AKA The coyote version of the middle finger. I bet he was settin on his haunches. OK I got his number. 1-800 HORNADY!
Well so much for my killing streak. Now im -$5 and 5 rounds of .223 Z-max. All because of a dang coyote that wouldnt stop for a woop. Im glad its not 5 a shot.
This time of the year, you can go back to your wounded rabbit or whatever animal in distress sound works for you. Even better is if you have time to explore some new sounds. Give the predators something that they've never heard before. You can throw in any kind of animal in distress. Predators may not come storming into the sound, but their curiousity will get the best of them and they'll come in to investigate. If you are a master at the long shot, you may get a chance at that curious coyote. Female coyotes are on the prowl now because they must sustain for not only themselves, but for their unborn pups as well. Keep knocking off that fur.... Good Luck.
Well right about now or next week sometime is when the coyotes are giving birth to their young. If you despise coyotes like I do, you can really do some damage to them at this time of the year. Both the male and female hunt for their young at this time and they respond well to the wounded animal in distress calls that you use. If you really want to put a damper on the coyote population, go out this month and put the smack down on them. Good Luck!!!
For those trappers out there its a good idea to continue scouting. Even though its hot, and the fishing is just getting good you must stay focused on the season to come to be successful, and not be so worried about your sun tan. Spring turkey is over so no excuses, and take a rifle, and some calls too. You dont want to pass up an opportunity to put a dent in the population.
Well.... to everyone out there that's trying to hunt predators now...... It's the full moon phase right now, so if you wait to hunt in the evenings for about the last 2 hours of daylight, you'll have way more success. When it's burning hot like it is here in El Paso, the predators are going to lay around and seek shade/cover for the heat wave. Combined with a full moon, means that they are getting up and being active around 1800 every evening and getting ready for their evening/night hunts..... Trust me when I say, you'll be way more successful if you sleep in and take your hunting to the field in the evenings during this full moon. Good Luck!!!
Hey there, just a little tip for those die hard predator hunters like us at VPH. Most coyotes mate around Jan. or Feb., so at around the 6 to 9mo. mark the new young yotes begin to venture out of the den. This+ a little wind in your favor and a fox-pro = great hunting. Yes they are young now but in just a few months they will consume thousands of upland game birds and countles other species, valuable to our ecosystem. Gettem now while the gettins good.
Well.... It's August.... You know what that means..... If you get out there and do some coyote hunting, you're probably going to get some good response from the coyote pups that were born back in the spring. These pups are used to the sounds of cotton tails and jack rabbit screams because that's the sound they are familiar with when their parents bring their prey to the den. Once a coyote pup hears that sound, they automatically think that it's dinner time. They come running to the call, regardless of wind direction, caution, or any other warnings. It's strictly dinner time for them and you can easily get some good shots off. Hope this tip helps you knock off some fur. Predator season is going to start heating up real soon. Get out there and get em.......
New to desert yote hunts but looking to get out there and at em out a bit here soon! Much more used to the hills and trees of N. Texas and Oklahoma, however I was out shooting north of Anthony Gap (west of the powerlines) and found a whole mess of tracks and scat and want to go out there an hit em at what looks to be the only water for miles. It's a depression with a good 6ft. berm around it and tons of brush around the perimeter. I plan to set up multiple shooters around the hole and call from the middle and have the vantage of a very flat desert surrounding. What say the masters? Besides the dog tracks I spotted what looked to be a nice set of cat prints too...I'd love to have a nice group stand and bag em by the truck full.
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Hello Snake Bite.... Yea, I know exactly where you are at, and the problem with that site is, that almost everyone and their mother shoots out there, so I'm pretty sure that the predators are moving through there at night...... James and I have called alot out there, but we've never seen a coyote in that area..... I have seen the prints and scat as well, but I've been out there numerous times when people shoot and bring their pets and grill out and stuff, so I'm wondering if what you've seen is coyote tracks or people's pets tracks, or a combo of both. There have been rumored sightings of mountain lion in the Franklin Mountains..... One was killed in Chapparel, NM, just a few miles from that same location. If you'd really like to go out and get some good action in, leave us an email on the "Contact Us" tab and we'll get back with you and take you out...... Free of charge buddy.... Coyote Steve
Hello all...Yes it's me "the quiet one" or I guess you could say "silent but deadly" LOL. Anyway, I have only given my 2 cents worth of advise on here once. I am looking forward to the coyote season after laying off of them all summer long, it's just too damn hot here during the summer, don't get me wrong you can still get on em during the summer but by 0900 its 90-100 degrees and its stays hot until after sun down, so the hunting time is limited. Fall is soon approaching and the fur will start flying. My goal this season is to get a good kill on video with my Springfield XD .45 handgun. These other guys, on team VPH, may be better than me with rifles but put a handgun in my hands and watch out! "I will accomplish my goal"!!!!! Steve and James I'm counting on you to bring one into range of my .45, 20yds, is good enough.
Hell yea Eric..... We are going to get it done this year!! Let's try to get it on video too. Eric Sodemann is the best pistol shooter that I've ever seen. If he says he going to get one with his pistol, then he's damn sure going to get it done!!!
Hello everyone.... The Veteran Predator Hunters are gearing up for a relocation.... Right now Doug, Kip, and Coyote Steve are all around the Southern Texas area.... James is following soon, so we'll be calling San Antonio, Texas our home very, VERY soon..... We have to let the predator population in El Paso, TX regenerate.
I ate a Ready to Eat Sandwich while I was out hunting today and it was the best Sandwich that I've ever had. Thanks Stuff, Stuff for sending it to me... Awesome!!
Well everyone.....It's getting late in the predator hunting season. Most of us know that when predator hunting, the curious coyote is the one that is going to show up most of the time. Since it's late January and early February, you should transition to some howling and female wimper calls. I think you'll find that you'll be more successful because coyotes have turned their focus to the mating season. Hope this tip helps you out. Good luck out there...
Ok everybody left El Paso except me which only means one thing........It wont get over hunted anymore so more dogs for me!!!!!!! Just kidding . Good luck to VPH in San Antonio. I will keep things running here in El Paso by starting out the year with a VICTORY in this Saturdays competition in Las Cruces. I recruited a good friend of mine from High School and co-worker Cliff Vance. Wish us luck!!!
Had a great fox hunt last night. Had reds running everywhere. Small snow front had em moving early though. Got one red and a skunk of all things, who almost filled its own tag by spraying the heck out of me and my buddy Bill. Ive never seen a skunk charge across an open field backwards so fast in my life. He almost had us but Mr. 12ga. didnt allow it.
Team VPH scores 2nd place with 4 yotes in Las Cruces event and also wins big dog and little dog almost a clean sweep!!!
Congrats to the VPH team for winning a ton of money and for capturing the 2nd place title and also money for big and little dog!! Awesome job guys!!!
To all of our fans...... Use OTIS cleaning Solutions in order to clean your guns. They are some of the best cleaning supplies that you can ever use.
Ok Folks!!! you never know what to expect when out calling coyotes. Went out early June, HOT!!!!!, after 5 sets decided to do one more, using the Cass Creek Waggler, and I called in a Antelope!!! got it all on Video too. Sent the video to Steve and he sent it to Cass Creek. I know Steve and James called in Mule deer before too so keep that in mind next time you are out deer or antelope hunting bring your caller with you and you might just get Lucky.
Hey everyone, if you're going camping for those overnight predator hunting trips, don't forget to take your The Schrade Hatchet SCAXE2 with you. It's the best hatchet that I've ever owned. Awesome!! Coyote Steve
The "See All Open Sight" is the best thing smoking for those coyotes on the run..... Place one on your shotgun and enhance your performance of moving targets. Unbelievable performance!!!
Just wanted to let everyone know that Rapala fisherman pliers are awesome. Great for you tool bag weather your hunting or fishing!
Great day last Monday we got a 30 lb Tom bobcat and 2 coyotes. Got the coyotes on one stand 1st one at 3 min 2nd one at 12 min. There's a tip for you. If you call in a coyote or any other predator and shoot him under 5 min. keep calling another one may come in too.
Good Job Eric, and congrats to our new Field Staff Member Cliff Vance.... Welcome to the team buddy!!
When you're out trying to locate predators with your howls or siren calls, and you call in a coyote or two from the pack, then remember this...... Once that coyote goes missing from the pack, they'll wonder where it went and be on the search for it. If you return to that spot later on during your hunt and play your coyote in distress sounds, you'll be lucky enough to score another two or three coyotes that'll be looking for their lost pack member. This has happened to me a lot! This works! Great tip for when your out there hitting it hard all day!!
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Coyotes—even those with no hunter encounters on their resumé—are über-suspicious. And they trust their nose more than their eyes or ears. It’s in every coyote’s genetic makeup to try to circle downwind when approaching prey. Lesson: Minimize head movements, maximize eye movements, and look for coyotes coming in or skulking around either side of you and not necessarily where you’d like them to come from.